Which Translation: The Odyssey

Achilles in the underworld (11.488–501) — Which Translation: The Odyssey

Daniel Mendelsohn

2025 · Hexameter verse
‘Don’t you sweet-talk me about death, illustrious Odysseus!
I would far rather live off the earth as the serf of another man—
Some man with a pitiful portion who barely ekes out a living—
Than rule here as the lord of all those who are dead and gone.
But come now, tell me something about my splendid son.
Did he follow me into the war as the foremost fighter, or not?
And tell me of faultless Peleus, if by chance you have heard any news—
Does he still hold his place of honor in all the Myrmidon cities?
Or do men throughout Hellas and Phthía disrespect him now
Because old age has seized both his arms and his legs in its grip?
For I myself can no longer defend him under the rays of the sun
And be as I once was by the sprawling plains of Troy
When I’d slaughter the enemy’s finest as I was defending the Argives.

Michael Solot

2025 · Accentual verse
‘Don’t try your sweet talk on me,
Brilliant Odysseus. What do you know about death?
I’d rather be up there on earth, working for wages
For some worthless farmer who has next to nothing himself
Than command these cadavers as King of All Kings of the Dead!
But give me the news of my son: did he get to the war?
Did he fight out in front? And what of my father, old Peleus?
Is he still respected as king of the Myrmidon masses
Or do they dishonor him all over Hellas and Phthia
Because he’s now crippled by age—because I can’t protect him!
I’m out of the sunlight, a shadow, nothing at all
Like I used to be, once, on those wide open plains before Troy,
Killing the best men they had and defending the Greeks.

Robert Henry Dawson

2025 · Prose
“Do not speak to me soothingly of death, glorious Odysseus. I would rather be a laborer and serve another man—a man with no land and little to live on—than to be king over all the perished dead. But come, tell me of my son. Did he follow me to war to become a leader, or not?”

William Mann

2022 · Free verse
‘You have no consolation for my death O glorious Oduséus.
For I would choose to serve on earth and be the slave
of a man of nothing whose existence possessed no greatness
rather than be the lord of all the rotting dead.
But come and speak and tell me of the glory of my son
whether or not he followed me and was the apex of the war.
And tell me if you have heard anything of noble Pêleus
and if he still has honour among all the Murmidónessi
or if they dishonour him in Hellás and Phthíê
because old age binds him hand and foot.
For I cannot defend him in the light of Êelios
and be what I was when I was in Troíê far away
when I slew the finest of their men to save the Argeíoisi.

Charles Underwood

2022 · Prose
“‘Don’t talk around the fact that I, in fact, am dead, charming Odysseus. I’d rather work as a hired hand for someone else, some man without a speck of land and very little means, than be the ruler over all these lifeless dead. But come, tell me about my fine son, whether or not he has gone to war and is a leader. And tell me of Peleus, who has no equal, if you’ve heard anything. Does he still maintain his honor among the Myrmidon people, or do they now dishonor him throughout Hellas and Phthia, because old age is holding him down, hand and foot, since I am not up there, under the sun’s rays, to protect him, as I was before when I was fighting for the Argives and killed the very best of the others on the Trojan plains.

Peter Green

2018 · Hexameter verse
‘Don’t talk up death to me, illustrious Odysseus!
I’d rather work as a field hand, a hireling, for some other
landless man who could just scrape a livelihood together
than be lord over all the corpses who’ve ever perished!
But come, tell me the news about that fine son of mine—
has he gone off to war, and made it as champion, or not?
And have you had any news about Pēleus? If so, tell me—
Is he still honored among the mass of the Myrmidons?
Or do they show him no honor throughout Hellas and Phthiē
now that old age has crippled him, hand and foot,
and I’m no longer there to help him, out in the sunlight,
or strong, as once I was in the wide terrain of Troy
when I slew the best of their men while defending the Argives?

Anthony Verity

2017 · Free verse
“Do not try to comfort me about death, splendid Odysseus.
I would rather be a land-labourer, bonded to another man,
one who owns no land, and with little enough to keep him
alive, than to be king over all the dead who have passed away.
But now; tell me some news about that lordly son of mine—
did he follow me to the war, to be a champion there, or not?
Tell me too if you have heard any report of excellent Peleus,
if he still enjoys honour among the numerous Myrmidons,
or if in Hellas and Phthia they now treat him without respect
because old age binds his hands and feet fast in its grip.
I cannot now be his protector under the light of the sun—
the kind of man I once was in Troy’s wide lands, when I
defended the Argives and killed the best of Troy’s fighters.

Richard Whitaker

2017 · Accentual verse
‘Do not make light of death to me, Odysseus.
I’d rather be bywoner of some landless
man without a livelihood, on earth,
than inkosi over all the dead and gone.
But come, let’s speak about my noble son:
did he go as an induna to the war?
And tell me what news you have of Peleus:
do the Myrmidons still respect him, or do they
dishonour him in Phthia and in Hellas
because old age slows down his hands and feet?
I’m not there in the sunlight to protect him
as the kind of man I was when, once, at Troy
I slaughtered their best warriors for the Akhaians.
If I came back to Peleus’ house like that,

Emily Wilson

2017 · Blank verse
‘Odysseus, you must not comfort me
for death. I would prefer to be a workman,
hired by a poor man on a peasant farm,
than rule as king of all the dead. But come,
tell me about my son. Do you have news?
Did he march off to war to be a leader?
And what about my father Peleus?
Does he still have good standing among all
the Myrmidons? Or do they treat him badly
in Phthia and Greece, since he is old
and frail? Now I have left the light of day,
and am not there to help, as on the plains
of Troy when I was killing the best Trojans,
to help the Greeks.

Herbert Jordan

2014 · Blank verse
‘Do not make light of death to me, Odysseus.
I would prefer to labor tilling land
beside a poor man who had little food
rather than rule unnumbered hosts of shades.
Now speak a word to me about my son.
Did he become preeminent in war?
And tell me what you know of noble Peleus.
Is he esteemed among the Myrmidons,
or do they slight him now in Phthia and Hellas
because old age subdues his hands and feet?
I cannot lend support where sunbeams shine.
I am not as I once was outside Troy,
when I cut down their best and saved the Argives.

Joe Sachs

2014 · Prose
‘Don’t give me that facile consolation about death, Odysseus, with your shiny words. I’d rather be on earth and do menial labor for another man, even a man with next to nothing himself, who’s barely scratching out a living, than be the ruler who holds sway over all the withered, wasted dead. But come, tell me the story of that glorious son of mine; did he follow in my footsteps to become the preeminent man in the war, or not? And tell about the irreproachable Peleus if you’ve heard any news of him; does he still hold honor among the multitudes of Myrmidons, or do they look on him with disdain in Phthia and all through Greece now, because old age has him tied down hand and foot? For I’m not there under the bright rays of the sun to be a help and support to him the way I once was to the Argives, defending them on the wide plains of Troy by mowing down hordes of the enemy’s best men.

Barry B. Powell

2014 · Accentual verse
‘Don’t sing praise to me about death, my fine Odysseus!
If I could live on the earth, I would be happy to serve as a hired
hand to some other, even to some man without a plot of land,
one who has little to live on, than to be king among all the dead
who have perished. But come, tell me of my good son,
whether he followed me to the war and became a leader or not.
Tell me of my father Peleus, if you know anything,
whether he still holds honor among the many Myrmidons,
or whether men deprive him of honor throughout Hellas
and Phthia because old age has taken possession
of his hands and feet. For I am not there to bear him aid
beneath the rays of the sun in such strength as I had
when at broad Troy I killed the best of their people,
defending the Argives.

Norbert A. D. Albertson

2013 · Free verse
‘Odysseus, do not speak lightly of death.
For I would sooner choose hard toil in the fields
Of some poor landless man, and and still to live,
Than to rule here as king over all the decrepit dead.
But come, say some word of my shining son;
Came he to war a leader of men, or no?
And tell what you have heard of blameless Peleus;
Keeps he his honor among the Myrmidons,
Or do they despise him, from Hellas even to Phthia,
Now old age has gripped him hand and foot?
For I am no more his defender under the brilliant sun
As once I was, when ranging the plains of Troy
I slew the enemy’s chiefs, defending the Argives.

Brian Dawkins

2013 · Free verse
‘Do not speak to me of Death, Odysseus.
I would rather be a menial to another,
However poor, with but a meagre living,
Than to rule here the throngs of the dead.
But speak to me of my son.
Was he pre-eminent in battle or not?
Speak to me also of Peleos, if you know anything.
Is he still honoured among the Myrmidons
Or is he scorned in Hellas and Ffthias
As age has weakened his limbs?
If only I could be his helper once more
In the light of day, as once I was at Troy
When I slew the best, defending the Argheions,

Stephen Mitchell

2013 · Accentual verse
And he said, ‘Don’t try to smooth-talk me into accepting
death, Odysseus. I would much rather be
above ground as the most destitute serf, hired out
to some tenant farmer with hardly enough to live on,
than to be king over all the shadowy dead.
But give me news of my son. Did he follow me
to the war and win fame there? And tell me about my father,
Peleus: What have you heard? Does he still rule
over the Mýrmidons, or are they treating him badly
in Hellas and Phthia because he is gripped by old age
and I am no longer there in the world of sunlight
to defend him, just as I once defended the Argives
and slaughtered the enemy on the wide plain of Troy?

Richard Wilding

2011 · Free verse
“Do not make light of death to me, Odysseus.
I would rather be a labourer and serve
some needy man, himself in poverty,
than reign as sovereign over all the dead.
But come, tell me about my noble son.
Does he give fair promise to be brave in war,
or does he shun it? And tell me of Peleus
if you have heard anything; is he still respected
among the Myrmidons, or do they scorn him now
in Greece and Phthia because old age has bound him
in hand and foot? I cannot help him now.
The glorious sun no longer sees me as I was
when I defended the Achaeans, and laid low
the best of all the hosts of spacious Troy.

Charles Stein

2008 · Free verse
“‘Don’t speak words of cheap comfort to me about death,
glorious Odysseus.
I would choose to be back on earth
as a landless man with scant livelihood,
hired out to another,
rather than lord it over
all the dead who have perished away.
But come, give me word of my boy,
whether he followed to the war to be a chieftain
or whether he did not do it.
And tell me about Pêleios,
if perhaps you’ve heard something,
if he yet has honor among the Myrmidons,
or whether they hold him in contempt
in Hellas and in Phthiê,
because old age has taken him hand and foot.
For I am not now beneath the rays of the sun
and cannot be a protector
as at Troy I was able to be
in defense of the Argives.

James Huddleston

2006 · Free verse
‘Don’t console me about death, brilliant Odysseus.
I’d rather be a hired farmhand, slaving for another,
for a landless man who hasn’t much substance,
than rule all the dead who’ve perished.
But come, tell me word of my illustrious son,
whether he went to war to be a chief or not.
Tell me of noble Peleus, if you’ve found anything out,
whether he still has honor among all the Myrmidons
or whether they dishonor him thoughout Hellas and Phthia
because old age holds back his hands and feet,
for I’m not his protector under the bright light of the sun,
as I was when, once upon a time, in wide Troy,
I slew the best men to protect the Argives.

Ian Johnston

2006 · Hexameter verse
‘Don’t try to comfort me about my death,
glorious Odysseus. I’d rather live
working as a wage-labourer for hire
by some other man, one who had no land
and not much in the way of livelihood,
than lord it over all the wasted dead.
But come, talk to me of my noble son—
whether he went off to war or not.
Did he became a leader? Talk to me
about great Peleus, if there’s something
you have heard. Is he still held in honour
among the many Myrmidons? Do men
disparage him in Hellas and in Phthia
because old age now grips his hands and feet?
I am not there, living in the sunlight,
to help him with the power I once had
in spacious Troy, when I fought their best men
and kept the Argives safe.

A. S. Kline

2004 · Prose
“Glorious Odysseus: don’t try to reconcile me to my dying. I’d rather serve as another man’s labourer, as a poor peasant without land, and be alive on Earth, than be lord of all the lifeless dead. Give me news of my son, instead. Did he follow me to war, and become a leader? Tell me, too, what you know of noble Peleus. Is he honoured still among the Myrmidons, or because old age ties him hand and foot do Hellas and Phthia fail to honour him. I am no longer up there in the sunlight to help him with that strength I had on Troy’s wide plain, where I killed the flower of their host to defend the Argives.

Edward McCrorie

2004 · Accentual verse
‘Don’t talk nicely of death to me, shining Odysseus.
I’d rather be stuck on a farm, a drudge for some other
threadbare man with hardly a life or resources
than rule all those who waste away and are dead here.
‘But tell me news of my son, high-born and wondrous,
whether he joined that war or not in the front ranks?
Speak about faultless Peleus too—if only you heard tell—
whether he still is esteemed by the Murmidon people.
Or maybe he’s disesteemed in Hellas and Phthie
now that his hands and feet are hobbled by old age.
I cannot help him now in the rays of the Sun-God.
I’m not as I was at wide-plained Troy in the old days,
killing their army’s best and defending the Argives.

Rodney Merrill

2002 · Hexameter verse
‘Speak to me not about death so soothingly, brilliant Odysseus;
I would prefer to be working the earth, hired out to another,
even a landless man, whose living is far from abundant,
than to be lord over all of the phantoms of those who have perished.
But come now, of that excellent son of mine tell me the story,
whether or not he followed as champion into the battle.
If you have heard anything about excellent Peleus, tell me,
whether among those numerous Myrmidons yet he is honored
or if instead they do him dishonor in Hellas and Phthia
since he is held by his hands and his feet in the trammels of old age;
nor am I there as protector beneath bright Helios’ sunbeams,
being the man I was when once in the broad Troäd I
slaughtered the best of the fighters, defending the Argive peoples.
If being such I could enter my father’s abode but an instant,

R. L. Eickhoff

2001 · Prose
‘Ah, do not speak lightly of death, Odysseus, and do not rub salt into the wound of my own. Note this: I would rather be the most common slave in the fields for some landless peasant than rule these lifeless dead as their king. No wonder Hades wears such a gloomy look. There is nothing to them but hollow moanings and aimless ramblings. But enough of this melancholy. Give me word about that son of mine. Tell me: Did he follow me to Troy and take a hand in tumbling those topless towers? Do the Myrmidons hold him in such esteem as they did, or is he sneered at in Hellas and Phthie now that age may have twisted his bones and withered his flesh? (For such is the way of mortals that the heroes of today become the forgotten of tomorrow.) I fear for him since I no longer walk in the sunlight to protect him as I once did whole armies, yes, even to laying low the champion of the enemy upon the fields of Troy.

Martin Hammond

2000 · Prose
“Do not talk to me lightly of death, glorious Odysseus. I had rather be above earth and a labourer for another, for a man without land of his own and little to live on, than be king over all the lifeless dead. But come, tell me now the news of my proud son – did he follow me to prominence in war, or not? And tell me too if you have heard anything of the noble Peleus, whether he is still held in honour among the host of Myrmidons, or whether they slight him now throughout Hellas and Phthia because old age has taken hold of his hands and feet. If only I were there under the light of the sun to protect him, the man I was when fighting for the Argives in the broad land of Troy and killing the best of the Trojan army.

Stanley Lombardo

2000 · Tetrameter verse
‘Don’t try to sell me on death, Odysseus.
I’d rather be a hired hand back up on earth,
Slaving away for some poor dirt farmer,
Than lord it over all these withered dead.
But tell me about that boy of mine.
Did he come to the war and take his place
As one of the best? Or did he stay away?
And what about Peleus? What have you heard?
Is he still respected among the Myrmidons,
Or do they dishonor him in Phthia and Hellas,
Crippled by old age in hand and foot?
And I’m not there for him up in the sunlight
With the strength I had in wide Troy once
When I killed Ilion’s best and saved the army.

Robert Fagles

1996 · Free verse
‘No winning words about death to me, shining Odysseus!
By god, I’d rather slave on earth for another man —
some dirt-poor tenant farmer who scrapes to keep alive —
than rule down here over all the breathless dead.
But come, tell me the news about my gallant son.
Did he make his way to the wars,
did the boy become a champion —yes or no?
Tell me of noble Peleus, any word you’ve heard —
still holding pride of place among his Myrmidon hordes,
or do they despise the man in Hellas and in Phthia
because old age has lamed his arms and legs?
For I no longer stand in the light of day —
the man I was —comrade-in-arms to help my father
as once I helped our armies, killing the best fighters
Troy could field in the wide world up there...
‘Never try to reconcile me to death, glorious Odysseus. I should choose, so I might live on earth, to serve as the hireling of another, some landless man with hardly enough to live on, rather than to be lord over all the dead that have perished. But come, tell me tidings of my son, that lordly youth, whether or not he followed to the war to be a leader. And tell me of flawless Peleus, if you have heard anything, whether he still has honor among the host of the Myrmidons, or men do him dishonor throughout Hellas and Phthia, because old age binds him hand and foot. For I am not there to bear him aid beneath the rays of the sun in such strength as once was mine in wide Troy, when I slew the best of their army in defence of the Argives.

R. D. Dawe

1993 · Prose
‘Do not try to talk death away, glorious Odysseus: I would prefer to be on earth, as another’s serf, in the household of a man without land and with nothing much to live on, than be king of all the dead that have perished. But come, tell me what there is to say about my proud son, whether he followed to war to be a leader, or not. Tell me of the excellent Peleus, if you have any knowledge of him, whether he still holds <a position of> honour among the many Myrmidons, or whether they hold him in dishonour throughout Hellas and Phthia because his hands and feet are in the grip of old age. If only I were there to help, in the sunlight, being just as I was once when in broad Troy I killed their best people in protecting the Argives

Brian Kemball-Cook

1993 · Hexameter verse
“Do not attempt the commending of death to me, famous Odysseus.
I would rather be bound as a serf upon earth and be living,
Though I be serving a landless man possessing but little,
Than be the ruler of all these dead in the dwelling of Hades.
But come, what of my own fine son? Do you bring any tidings
Whether or not he followed me forth to the war as a chieftain?
What of my father too? Have you news of the virtuous Peleus?
Is due honour paid to him still by the Myrmidon people,
Or do they treat him with scant respect through Phthia and Hellas,
Now that his hands and his feet through age are afflicted with weakness?
I cannot come forth hence to succour him under the sun’s rays,
Such as I was when once in the widespread land of the Trojans
I did slaughter the best of the foemen, defending the Argives.
‘“And do not you make light of death, illustrious Odysseus,” he replied. “I would rather work the soil as a serf on hire to some landless impoverished peasant than be King of all these lifeless dead. Come, give me news of that fine son of mine. Did he follow me to the war to play a leading part or not? And tell me anything you have heard of the noble Peleus. Does the Myrmidon nation still do him homage, or do they dishonour him in Hellas and Phthie because old age has made a cripple of him? For I am not up there in the sunlight to protect him as I once protected the Argives and laid the champions of the enemy low on the broad plains of Troy.

Allen Mandelbaum

1990 · Blank verse
‘Odysseus, don’t embellish death for me.
I’d rather be another’s hired hand,
working for some poor man who owns no land
but pays his rent from what scant gains he gets,
than to rule over all whom death has crushed.
But tell me something of my worthy son:
Has he, a lord of men, gone off to war,
become a chieftain? And what have you heard
of stalwart Péleus? Does he still preserve
his place of honor with the Myrmidons,
or is he scorned in Hellas and in Phthía
because old age has slowed his hands and feet?
I do not rise beneath the rays of sun
to take the form I had in Troy’s broad land
when, to defend the Argives, my attacks
killed stalwart men:

Walter Shewring

1980 · Prose
“Odysseus, do not gloss over death to me. I would rather be above ground still and labouring for some poor portionless man, than be lord over all the lifeless dead. But tell me now all that you know of my princely son. Did he follow me to the wars to become a chieftain, or did he not? And tell me also what news you have of noble Peleus. Is he honoured still among the thronging Myrmidons, or do they despise him in Hellas and in Phthia because old age has fettered his hands and feet? If only I might return to help him, return to the sunlight as once I was when in the wide land of Troy I championed the Argives and slew the bravest of the foe!

Denison Bingham Hull

1978 · Blank verse
‘Odysseus, don’t console me for my death.
I’d rather be a serf and serve another,
some poor man who has not enough to live on,
than be the lord of all the dead who’ve perished.
Come, tell me something of my noble son,
whether he’s gone to war a champion
or not. And tell me what you’ve learned of Peleus;
is he still honored by the Myrmidons
in Hellas or in Phthia now, or not,
because old age constrains his hands and feet?
For I’m no longer in the light to help him
as I once was upon the Trojans’ plain
killing the best of them to help the Argives.

Richmond Lattimore

1967 · Hexameter verse
“O shining Odysseus, never try to console me for dying.
I would rather follow the plow as thrall to another
man, one with no land allotted him and not much to live on,
than be a king over all the perished dead. But come now,
tell me anything you have heard of my proud son, whether
or not he went along to war to fight as a champion;
and tell me anything you have heard about stately Peleus,
whether he still keeps his position among the Myrmidon
hordes, or whether in Hellas and Phthia they have diminished
his state, because old age constrains his hands and feet, and I
am no longer there under the light of the sun to help him,
not the man I used to be once, when in the wide Troad
I killed the best of their people, fighting for the Argives.

Albert Spaulding Cook

1967 · Free verse
‘Noble Odysseus, do not commend death to me.
I would rather serve on the land of another man
Who had no portion and not a great livelihood
Than to rule over all the shades of those who are dead.
Come now and tell me the story of my noble son,
Did he follow to battle and become a chief or not?
Tell me about blameless Peleus, if you have heard anything;
Does he have honor still with the many Myrmidons,
Or do they show him no honor through Hellas and Phthia
Because old age constrains him in his hands and feet?
For I am no protector under the rays of the sun
Of the kind I was at one time when in broad Troy
I slew their best men, defending for the Argives.

Preston H. Epps

1965 · Prose
‘Do not be commending death to me, glorious Odysseus. I would rather be on earth as a hired laborer for a landless man who had slight means for living than to be king over all the dead who have died. But come! Tell me about my admirable son, whether he followed us to war to be a leader or not. And tell me about royal Peleus, if you have any news of him, whether he is still held in honor among the cities of the Myrmidons, or is slighted throughout Hellas and Phthia because old age now grips his hands and feet. I am not now his defender in the land where the sun shines, even though I once was such a person as to slay the bravest people in spacious Troy while defeating the Argives.

Robert Fitzgerald

1961 · Free verse
‘Let me hear no smooth talk
of death from you, Odysseus, light of councils.
Better, I say, to break sod as a farm hand
for some poor country man, on iron rations,
than lord it over all the exhausted dead.
Tell me, what news of the prince my son: did he
come after me to make a name in battle
or could it be he did not? Do you know
if rank and honor still belong to Peleus
in the towns of the Myrmidons? Or now, may be,
Hellas and Phthia spurn him, seeing old age
fetters him, hand and foot. I cannot help him
under the sun’s rays, cannot be that man
I was on Troy’s wide seaboard, in those days
when I made bastion for the Argives
and put an army’s best men in the dust.

Ennis Rees

1960 · Accentual verse
‘Keen Odysseus, do not try to make me
Welcome death. I would rather live on earth
As a hireling of one who was but poor himself
Than to be king of all the ghosts there are!
But come, tell me what you know of my son,
That splendid youth who may have become a leader
In the war. And what have you heard of noble Peleus?
Is he still honored among the Myrmidon host,
Or has old age deprived him of his glory
Throughout all Hellas and Phthia? For I no longer
Live up there in the sunlight where I might be
Some help to him with strength such as was mine
At the broad city of Troy where I, in defense
Of the Argives, slew the best men the Trojans had.

S. O. Andrew

1948 · Accentual verse
“Odysseus, speak not of death such comforting words;
I had rather live above ground as the hireling or thrall
Of a landless churl, that a scant livelihood wins,
Than be king over all these dead that have perish’d on earth.
But come now, tell me some word of my valiant son:
Did he go to the war and become there a leader of men?
And tell me of blameless Peleus, if aught thou hast heard;
Do the Myrmidons hold him in honour, still as of old,
Or is he, from Hellas to Phthia, in little esteem
Because old age has benumb’d both his hands and his feet?
For I am no longer his champion under the sun,
So stalwart a hero as once in Troyland I was
When, succouring the Argives, I slew all the best of our foes.

E. V. Rieu

1946 · Prose
‘“My lord Odysseus,” he replied, “spare me your praise of Death. Put me on earth again, and I would rather be a serf in the house of some landless man, with little enough for himself to live on, than king of all these dead men that have done with life. But enough. Tell me what news there is of that fine son of mine. Did he follow me to the war and play a leading part or not? And tell me anything you have heard of the noble Peleus. Does the Myrmidon nation still do him homage, or do they look down on him in Hellas and Phthie now that old age has made a cripple of him? For I am not up there in the sunlight to protect him with the mighty arms that once did battle for the Argives and laid the champions of the enemy low on the broad plains of Troy.

W. H. D. Rouse

1937 · Prose
‘Don’t bepraise death to me, Odysseus. I would rather be plowman to a yeoman farmer on a small holding than lord Paramount in the kingdom of the dead. “‘But do tell me something about that fine son of mine. Did he go to the war and take a leading place, or not? And tell me of my noble old father; have you heard anything of Peleus? Does he still hold his honourable place among the Myrmidons, or have they lost respect for him throughout the land because his hands and feet are stiff with age? For I am no longer under the sun to help him, strong as I once was on the battlefield of Troy, when I struck down the best of them and defended our people.

T. E. Lawrence

1932 · Prose
‘Do not make light of Death before me, O shining Odysseus. Would that I were on earth a menial, bound to some insubstantial man who must pinch and scrape to keep alive! Life so were better than King of Kings among these dead men who have had their day and died. Enough—give me news of my admirable son! Did he get to the war and prove himself a leader; or not yet? Also of noble Peleus, if you have heard—do the Myrmidons still honour him or is he despitefully seen from Hellas to Phthia, because old age has crippled his hands and feet? No longer can I stand up in the eye of day his champion, the prodigy who succoured the Argives in the plains of Troy and brought death upon the stoutest Trojans.

Robert H. Hiller

1927 · Prose
“‘Speak not to me consolingly of death, I pray you, glorious Odysseus,’ he instantly answered. ‘I would rather be bound to the soil as a day laborer for some very poor man, than rule over all the dead. But come, give me some word of my illustrious son; whether he went to the war to be a leader, or not. And tell me if you have heard anything of noble Peleus; whether he still has honor in the cities of the Myrmidons, or they slight him now throughout Hellas and Phthia because old age hampers him, hand and foot. For I am not his helper now upon the earth, nor such an one as once I was when on the Trojan plain I slew the bravest men while succoring the Greeks.

William Sinclair Marris

1925 · Blank verse
“Speak not to me of death, renowned Odysseus,
In comfortable words! Fain would I choose,
So might I live on earth, to serve as hireling
Some other man—a landless man, a poor man—
Than be a king o’er all the dead and perished.
But give me tidings of my gallant son,
Whether or no he followed to the war
To be a leader; and of noble Peleus,
If any news thou hast—hath he still honour
Among the host of Myrmidons, or dare
Men hold him light from Hellas unto Phthia,
Because old age has bound him hand and foot?
For there am I no longer in the sunlight
To aid him with the strength I had, when once
I slew the army’s best in spacious Troy
And helped the Argives.

Francis Caulfeild

1921 · Hexameter verse
‘Speak not unfitting words about death, renownéd Odysseus.
So I could be once more on the wholesome earth, I would rather
Serve as a slave to a man who had neither fortune nor comforts
Than be the king of all the dead in the region of shadows.
But, can you give me word, of my son who went with the army,
Whether he proved to be, as he promised, a leader of heroes.
Say too what you have heard of the noble Peleus my father:
Is he yet treated with honour in all the Myrmidon cities,
Or do they set him at nought in Phthia and all over Hellas,
For that, by age, the strength of his hands and his feet has been crippled?
I am no champion now, to fight in the sunshine of heaven,
Such as I was when erst, on Troy’s wide pastures, I slaughtered
Many of Ilion’s bravest to succour the hard-pressed Achæans.

A. T. Murray

1919 · Prose
‘Nay, seek not to speak soothingly to me of death, glorious Odysseus. I should choose, so I might live on earth, to serve as the hireling of another, of some portionless man whose livelihood was but small, rather than to be lord over all the dead that have perished. But come, tell me tidings of my son, that lordly youth, whether or not he followed to the war to be a leader. And tell me of noble Peleus, if thou hast heard aught, whether he still has honour among the host of the Myrmidons, or whether men do him dishonour throughout Hellas and Phthia, because old age binds him hand and foot. For I am not there to bear him aid beneath the rays of the sun in such strength as once was mine in wide Troy, when I slew the best of the host in defence of the Argives.

Henry Bernard Cotterill

1911 · Hexameter verse
‘Speak not smoothly of death, I beseech, O famous Odysseus!
Better by far to remain on the earth as the thrall of another,
E’en of a portionless man that hath means right scanty for living,
Rather than reign sole king in the realm of the bodiless phantoms.
Come now, speak of my son! of the brave young gallant inform me:
Followed or followed he not to the war ? and became he a leader?
Say to me also if aught thou hast learnt of the glorious Peleus:
Whether he still is revered by the powerful Myrmidon people,
Or peradventure is scorned and dishonoured in Hellas and Phthia,
Now that in hand and in foot he is feeble, by age overmastered,
Neither again can I come to the light of the sun to avenge him,
Such as I was when of yore on the widespread plain of the Trojans
Slaying the best of the host of the foemen I succoured the Argives.

J. W. Mackail

1903 · Quatrains
“Speak not soft words concerning death to me
Glorious Odysseus: rather had I be
A thrall upon the acres to a man
Portionless and sunk low in poverty,
“Than over all the perished dead below
Hold lordship. But now tell me ere you go
Of the high prince my son, if to the war
As battle-leader he went forth or no.
“And tell me if your ears have tidings met
Concerning faultless Peleus: keeps he yet
Honour among the many Myrmidons?
Or do men hold him lightly, and forget
“His fame in Hellas and the Phthian land,
Now when old age has bound him foot and hand?
Would that I might but once again arise
Beneath the sunlight by his side to stand,
“And be his helper, in the night that then
Was mine when in wide Troy the flower of men
I slew, defending all the Argive host:

Samuel Butler

1900 · Prose
“‘Say not a word,’ he answered, ‘in death’s favour; I would rather be a paid servant in a poor man’s house and be above ground than king of kings among the dead. But give me news about my son; is he gone to the wars and will he be a great soldier, or is this not so? Tell me also if you have heard anything about my father Peleus—does he still rule among the Myrmidons, or do they show him no respect throughout Hellas and Phthia now that he is old and his limbs fail him? Could I but stand by his side, in the light of day, with the same strength that I had when I killed the bravest of our foes upon the plain of Troy

J. G. Cordery

1897 · Blank verse
‘Nay, sage Odysseus; gloze me not my death.
For I would liefer live a hireling serf,
To drudge for ever in a master’s field—
Some poor man’s field with little substance blest-
Than reign the Monarch here of all the Dead!
Rather inform me of my noble son.
Came he to be pre-eminent in war?
And tell me, if of blameless Peleus, aught
Hath reach’d thine ears. Do men dishonour him
In Phthia or in Hellas? Since old age
Now binds him, hand and foot, nor I am near
(No more abiding in the sun-lit earth),
To stand his helper by that olden might
Wherewith in Troy’s rich fields for Argos’ sake
I slew the foe by thousands.

William Morris

1887 · Rhyming irregular lines
‘And thou, O famed Odysseus, belittle not Death to me.
Well were I on earth’s acres e’en to serve beneath the hand
Of some man of little living and lacking share of land,
Rather than here to lord it o’er all the dead outworn.
But come now, what word hither of my fair son hast thou borne,
Whether the war he followed as a chief, or did it not?
And tell me if some tidings of great Peleus thou hast got:
If yet mid the Myrmidon cities he holdeth honour still;
Or if through Hellas and Pthia all men his honour spill,
Because in bonds eld holdeth his hands and his feet foredone;
For no more am I his helper beneath the beams of the sun,
E’en such as I was aforetime when erst in Troy the wide
I slew the best of the people and held the Argive side;

George Herbert Palmer

1884 · Prose
‘Mock not at death, glorious Odysseus. Better to be the hireling of a stranger, and serve a man of mean estate whose living is but small, than be the ruler over all these dead and gone. No, tell me tales of my proud son, whether or not he followed to the war to be a leader; tell what you know of gallant Peleus, whether he still has honor in the cities of the Myrmidons; or do they slight him now in Hellas and in Phthia, because old age has touched his hands and feet? I am myself no longer in the sunlight to defend him, nor like what I once was when on the Trojan plain I routed a brave troop in rescuing the Argives.

Arthur S. Way

1880 · Fourteeners
‘Happy!—come not unto me with thy babble of comfort in death!
Rather would I be a hireling to drudge in the fields all day
With a landless master, who sparely would feed me and niggardly pay,
Than over the hosts of the dead which have perished a sceptre to sway.
But thou, as concerning my princely son, some tidings show;
Whether he went to the war to be first in the battle, or no.
And tell me, concerning the high-born Peleus, hast aught to unfold?
Hath he honour and worship still mid the Myrmidon folk as of old?
Or through Hellas and Phthia-land now is he held in little esteem,
For that eld hath laid hold on his hands and his feet, and hath palsied him?
For I am not with him to champion his cause in the sight of the sun,
Clothed with the might that I had, when in broad Troy many an one
Of our foes, as I fought for the Argives, was sped to the shadowland-home.

Butcher & Lang

1879 · Prose
‘Nay, speak not comfortably to me of death, oh great Odysseus. Rather would I live on ground as the hireling of another, with a landless man who had no great livelihood, than bear sway among all the dead that be departed. But come, tell me tidings of that lordly son of mine—did he follow to the war to be a leader or not? And tell me of noble Peleus, if thou hast heard aught,—is he yet held in worship among the Myrmidons, or do they dishonour him from Hellas to Phthia, for that old age binds him hand and foot? For I am no longer his champion under the sun, so mighty a man as once I was, when in wide Troy I slew the best of the host, and succoured the Argives.

Roscoe Mongan

1879 · Prose
“Do not to me, at least, speak lightly of death, O illustrious Ulysses! I would wish, being on the earth, to serve for hire with another man, destitute of inheritance, to whom there did not belong much property, rather than to rule over all the departed dead. But come, relate to me an account of my noble son; did he follow to the war so as to be a chief or not? and tell me if you have heard anything of the blameless Peleus; whether has he still honour amongst many Myrmidonians? or do they dishonour him both throughout Hellas and Phthia, because old age has laid hold of him both in his hands and in his feet? for I am not an assistant to him under the beams of the sun, being such a one as when I slew the best of the people in wide Troy, fighting for the Grecians.

G. A. Schomberg

1879 · Blank verse
‘Ulysses, talk not thus of death to me;
I would prefer to be the veriest thrall,
Who for a needy, landless master sweats,
Than to be lord of all the skill-less dead!
But let me talk now of my noble boy;
Tell me, is he the foremost in the fight?
And of the honored Peleus, hast thou heard
If o’er the Myrmidons he still holds sway?
Or have they bated aught in their respect
In Greece and Phthia to his kingly rule,
Because from age his hands are feeble now?
Oh! would that I still in the light of day
Could his defender be; such as I was
When I erstwhile the champion of the Greeks,
Struck down the bravest of the brave at Troy;

Mordaunt Barnard

1876 · Blank verse
‘“Noble Ulysses! make not light of death;
‘“I’d rather be a serf, another’s slave,
‘“And be a landless man, of substance small,
‘“Than be the king of all departed dead.
‘“But tell me tidings of my noble son,
‘“If as a chief he followed to the war:
‘“Tell me if aught of Peleus thou hast heard:
‘“Holds he his state yet, ‘mid the Myrmidons?
‘“In Hellas, Phthia, do they him despise,
‘“Because old age afflicts his hands and feet?
‘“In the sun’s rays I was not there to aid,
‘“Such as I once was when, in spacious Troy
‘“The Greeks protecting, I the chief men slew.

William Cullen Bryant

1871 · Blank verse
‘Noble Ulysses, speak not thus of death,
As if thou couldst console me. I would be
A laborer on earth, and serve for hire
Some man of mean estate, who makes scant cheer,
Rather than reign o’er all who have gone down
To death. Speak rather of my noble son,
Whether or not he yet has joined the wars
To fight among the foremost of the host.
And tell me also if thou aught hast heard
Of blameless Peleus—whether he be yet
Honored among his many Myrmidons,
Or do they hold him now in small esteem
In Hellas and in Phthia, since old age
Unnerves his hands and feet, and I no more
Am there, beneath the sun, to give him aid,
Strong as I was on the wide plain of Troy,
When warring for the Achaian cause I smote
That valiant people.

Lovelace Bigge-Wither

1869 · Accentual verse
‘Mock not at death, I pray thee, bright Odysseus!
Rather would I, a serf upon the glebe,
Toil for scant wages from a lack-land churl,
Than over all the dead-and-gone be lord!
But come! now tell me of my noble child—
Did-he-go to-the-war to be a foremost warrior,
Or not? and what hast heard of faultless Peleus?
Is he still honoured ‘mid the host of Myrmidons—
Or do men scorn him now throughout broad Hellas,
Because old age hath bound him hand and foot?
No more am I his helper ’neath the sun—
Such as I was, when once on Troy’s wide plain
I fought for Argos,-and-slew a host of heroes!

G. W. Edginton

1869 · Blank verse
“Ulysses! do not comfort death to me!
I’d rather as a rustic serve for hire,
A poor man, wanting the good things of life;
Than govern those on earth once, but now here:
But tell to me news of my noble son,
Whether he went to fight in war’s front ranks;
Tell me, of good old Peleus, if thou’st heard;
If honor’d still by many Myrmidons,
Or if in Phthia they dishonour him,
Because old age holds both his hands and feet.
For I’m a staff to him no more on earth;
Being such as once upon the plains of Troy,
I slew the bravest, fighting for the Greeks:

George Musgrave

1865 · Blank verse
‘Ulysses! glorious chief!
Make thou not light of death to me! Well pleas’d
Would I—if but on Earth I now might live—
My wages as a serving man from one
Of lowly grade and slend’rest means receive,
Rather than all the dead supremely rule.
But, oh! do thou the history recount
Of my illustrious son: Did he with us
The war pursue, and to a chieftain’s rank
Attain or not? and say if tidings thou
Of Peleus, that all perfect man, hast gain’d:
Among the Myrmidons’ unnumber’d host,
Is he in high renown still reverenc’d,
Or in all Greece and Phthia have they yet
With contumely despis’d him, for that now
Old age extreme his hands and feet hath seiz’d?
For, now no longer in the sunbeams’ light
Can I his champion prove; the selfsame man
Who in the cause of Greece her battles fought
And all the flow’r of mighty Ilion’s hosts
Laid low in death.

T. S. Norgate

1863 · Blank verse
“Indeed now praise not death, not death, to me:
“Much rather would I be upon the glebe
“A hireling laborer to some needy swain,—
“Whose means of livelihood were not abundant,—
“Than to be lord over all the dead deceased.
“But, tidings of that gallant son of mine
“Come, tell me now; whether or not he strives
“To be of the foremost to the battle-field,
“Of Peleus too, the blemishless, tell, tell me
“Whate’er hast heard; whether he yet holds rank
“And honor amongst our many Myrmidons:
“Or whether now throughout both Phthia and Hellas
“They esteem him not, because old age lays hold
“Upon his hands and feet. For I no longer
“Under the light of Sun am any aid,
“As once I was, when fighting for the Argives
“I slew on Troy’s broad plains her choicest men.

Philip Stanhope Worsley

1861 · Spenserian stanzas
“Scoff not at death,” he answered, “noble chief!
Rather would I in the sun’s warmth divine
Serve a poor churl who drags his days in grief,
Than the whole lordship of the dead were mine.
But came my brave son to your wars, to shine
First in the front of arms?—This also tell:
If to the blameless Peleus men assign
Due reverence in the land, or if he dwell
Spurned in his weak old age, and not regarded well.
‘Since to his help I can no longer wield
Under the sun that valour famed of yore,
Such as men knew me in the Trojan field,
Smiter of heroes, bulwark of the war.

J. A. Giles

1858 · Prose
“Μη δη παραυδα do not make light of θανατον γε death at least μοι to me, φαιδιμ’ Οδυσσευ illustrious Ulysses; βουλοιμην κε I would be willing εων being επαρούρος on earth θητευεμεν to be a servant αλλω παρ’ ανδρι with another man ακληρω without inheritance, ω to whom μη ειη there belonged not βιοτος πολυς much sustenance, η [rather] than ανασσειν to reign πασι νεκυσσι καταφθμενοισιν over all the departed dead. Αλλα but αγε come ενισπε tell μοι me μυθον a word του παιδος αγανου of my noble boy; η επετο did he follow ες πολεμον to the war εμμεναι to be προμος a chief, ηε or και ουκι even not. Ειπε δε and μοι tell me, ει if πεπυσσαι thou hast learnt τι any thing Πηληος αμυμονος of blameless Peleus, η whether ετι εχει he still has τιμην honour πολεσι μετα Μυρμιδονεσσιν amongst the many Myrmidons, η or whether ατιμαζουσι they dishonour μιν him αν’ ‘Ελλαδα τε throughout both Hellas Φθιην τε and Phthia, οὑνεκα because γηρας old age κατεχει holds μιν him χειρας τε both in hands ποδας τε and in feet? εγων γαρ for I ουκ [am] not επαρωγος a helper υπ’ αυγας under the beams ηελοιο of the sun, εων being τοιος such, οιος as ποτε once ενι Τροιη ευρειη in broad Troy πεφνον I slew αριστον λαον the chief people, αμυνων fighting for Αργειοισι the Argives.

Theodore Alois Buckley

1851 · Prose
‘Do not, O illustrious Ulysses, speak to me of death; I would wish, being on earth, to serve for hire with another man of no estate, who had not much livelihood, rather than rule over all the departed dead. But come, tell me an account of my noble son; did he follow to the war so as to be a chief or not? and, tell me if thou hast heard any thing of blameless Peleus; whether has he still honour amongst the many Myrmidonians? or do they dishonour him in Greece and Pthia, because old age possesses his hands and feet? for I am not assistant to him under the beams of the sun, being such a one, as when I slew the best of the people in wide Troy, fighting for the Grecians.

William Sotheby

1834 · Heroic couplets
‘Talk not of consolation—not in death!
‘Far gladlier would I serve, recall’d to breath,
‘Serve like a hind, for hire, some needy slave,
‘Than rule o’er all the swarms that crowd the grave.
‘But of my noble son the truth declare,
‘Strives he to gain the prize where heroes dare?
‘And say of Peleus all that thou hast heard,
‘Reigns he yet throned, by all obey’d his word,
‘Or scorn’d of Hellas and the Phthian land,
‘Trembles the sceptre in his aged hand?
‘I cannot aid him, in the light of day
‘No more Achilles can his strength display.
‘O might I such, as when on Ilion’s coast,
‘Bulwark of Greece, I slew Troy’s bravest host,

H. F. Cary

1823 · Prose
‘Do not, O illustrious Ulysses, speak to me of death; I would wish being on the earth, to serve for hire with another poor man, who had not much property, rather than rule over all the departed dead. But come tell me an account of my noble son; did he follow to the war so as to be a chief or not? and, tell me if you have heard any thing of the spotless Peleus; whether has he still honour amongst many Myrmidonians? or do they dishonour him in Greece and Phthia, because old age has laid hold of his hands and feet? for I am not an assistant to him under the beams of the sun, being such a one, as when I slew the best of the people in wide Troy, fighting for the Grecians.

William Cowper

1792 · Blank verse
Renown’d Ulysses! think not death a theme
Of consolation; I had rather live
The servile hind for hire, and eat the bread
Of some man scantily himself sustain’d,
Than sov’reign empire hold o’er all the shades.
But come—speak to me of my noble boy;
Proceeds he, as he promis’d, brave in arms,
Or shuns he war? Say also, hast thou heard
Of royal Peleus? shares he still respect
Among his num’rous Myrmidons, or scorn
In Hellas and in Phthia, for that age
Predominates in his enfeebled limbs?
For help is none in me; the glorious sun
No longer sees me such, as when in aid
Of the Achaians I o’erspread the field
Of spacious Troy with all their bravest slain.

Alexander Pope

1725 · Heroic couplets
“‘Talk not of ruling in this dolorous gloom,
Nor think vain words (he cried) can ease my doom.
Rather I’d choose laboriously to bear
A weight of woes, and breathe the vital air,
A slave to some poor hind that toils for bread,
Than reign the sceptred monarch of the dead.
But say, if in my steps my son proceeds,
And emulates his godlike father’s deeds?
If at the clash of arms, and shout of foes,
Swells his bold heart, his bosom nobly glows?
Say if my sire, the reverend Peleus, reigns,
Great in his Phthia, and his throne maintains;
Or, weak and old, my youthful arm demands,
To fix the sceptre steadfast in his hands?
O might the lamp of life rekindled burn,
And death release me from the silent urn!
This arm, that thunder’d o’er the Phrygian plain,
And swell’d the ground with mountains of the slain,

Thomas Hobbes

1675 · Heroic couplets
Talk not to me of honour here in Hell;
I’d rather serve a clown on earth for bread,
Than be, of all things incorporeal,
That are, or ever shall be, supreme head.
But tell me of my son, Neoptolemus;
Whether he came to Troy, and how he fought;
And of my aged father, Peleus,
Whether he keep his place, or be put out.
For since much time his vigour hath decay’d,
Some foe, it may be, hath usurp’d his place
In Pthia, and in Hellas where he sway’d,
And put him, with his people, in disgrace.
But were I now above, and strong as then,
When for the Greeks I fought at Ilium,
And slew so many of their bravest men,

John Ogilby

1665 · Heroic couplets
Thou of the Dead a weak Discourse dost make.
I rather would a Rustick be, and serve
A Swain for Hire, ready almost to starve,
And living be ’mongst all Misfortunes hurl’d,
Then dead be Emperour in this shady World.
But of my Son I fain would something know;
Came he to th’ Ilian Leaguer, yea or no?
Of my dear Father’s Fortunes something say,
If yet the Myrmidons his Pow’r obey;
Or have they shook his Scepter off, and hold
Him now not fit to rule grown Weak and Old?
I am not now as when I fought at Troy,
And Regiments could in my Rage destroy.

George Chapman

1615 · Heroic couplets
‘Urge not my death to me, nor rub that wound.
I rather wish to live in earth a swain,
Or serve a swain for hire, that scarce can gain
Bread to sustain him, than, that life once gone,
Of all the dead sway the imperial throne.
But say, and of my son some comfort yield,
If he goes on in first fights of the field,
Or lurks for safety in the obscure rear?
Or of my father if thy royal ear
Hath been advertis’d, that the Phthian throne
He still commands, as greatest Myrmidon?
Or that the Phthian and Thessalian rage
(Now feet and hands are in the hold of age)
Despise his empire? Under those bright rays,
In which heav’n’s fervour hurls about the days,
Must I no more shine his revenger now,
Such as of old the Ilion overthrow
Witness’d my anger, th’ universal host
Sending before me to this shady coast,
In fight for Grecia.